[f-AA] Handpropped - pilotless takeoff
Markl
markl at intercom.net
Fri Dec 1 04:28:53 PST 2006
This one shows the worth of a "cracked" detent so that throttle opening can be exact and the same each time. Anyone wanting to know how to do this give me your phone number or email me OFF list.
Fly frequently, many times, often, over and over again, and LOOK around,
Regards,
Tony Markl
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Waggoner
To: aeronca at westmont.edu
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Handpropped - pilotless takeoff
Steve: I will throw one of my my stupid experiences with added throttles and spinning the prop. I was a new private, 18 yrs. old, and had my new wife get in the cub in the front seat and hold the brakes on the J3 Cub. I propped. No start. I just slightly advanced the throttle, not wide open. I even rechecked it thinking I might have added too much. Suited me. Just right. Spin prop. Yep, started great. That small addition of throttle with my wife in the front seat. Tail straight up. She was looking me straight in the eye( I mean wide-eyed) and the little cub was pulling trying to go. Thank goodness she held those brakes in a death push. She has never let me forget this after 54 yrs. Just last week she asked me if I wanted to advance the throttle and prop 4646E. very sarcastic. (It is electric) Moral. That throttle does not have to be full on to lose one. Nothing beats throttle off, chocked or tied, and take a course on the correct method to prop and airplane. <G> Larry (PS. Steve you must live in MO. 72 Yesterday. 18 now. 3 inches of ice on the ground. 10 to 12 inches snow forecast for to-nite)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Lawlor" <9mo3 at ponyexpress.net>
To: aeronca at westmont.edu
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Handpropped - pilotless takeoff
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:59:11 -0600
Todd,
A good friend propped her champ after clearing a flooded engine. The
throttle was full on. She dove for the throttle as the aircraft lurched
over the chocks. The old rope on the tail snapped when pulled tight. The
champ went straight across the runway, over an embankment, and down into
trees, dragging her all of the way. Fifteen thousand dollars later the
plane is flying again. She had to wait for a collar bone and possibly a
rib to mend. She's a little more careful now.
Steve Lawlor It was 72 Tue. and now it's 18deg F BRRRRR!
Todd Pattist wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The subject of aircraft stability has come up and I'm interested
> in cases where an airplane, like my Champ, has been handpropped
> without a proper tiedown and has gone to full throttle and
> escaped. I recall some cases where the airplane takes off, but I
> can't recall all the details of what type aircraft, or exactly
> how far away it flew. Can anyone fill me in, possibly giving me
> a link to an accident report or just firsthand recollection. How
> far can our airplanes fly without a pilot? To fuel exhaustion?
> Or just to a spiral-in crash at the far end of the runway?
>
> Thanks for any info.
> Todd
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