[f-AA] Auto-gas STC

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Careful, You are only a "stones throw" from Jody.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mary and Dion Carr 
  To: aeronca at westmont.edu 
  Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 4:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [f-AA] Auto-gas STC


  That is what the MMO is used for.  Don't need the MMO for the autogas but it sure helped me on the 100LL.  That is how I read Lasher's book.  Okay guys I figure that you are all snowed in so I'm safely out of range and don't need to duck and cover.
  Dion Carr
  Geneseo, ILL. 
  Champ N84746
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Todd Pattist 
    To: aeronca at westmont.edu 
    Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 3:54 PM
    Subject: Re: [f-AA] Auto-gas STC


    Anyone routinely using a lead scavenger with the 100LL for the Continental A-65 family?

    Larry Waggoner wrote: 
      I have been involved in the petroleum business for almost 50 yrs.  My trucks, (oops I am retired and should have said my son's trucks) have been transporting that stuff all that time. In MO; ethanol is added to 89 octane gas and the 10% ethanol that is added brings this 89 octane  (also called mid-grade) to 91 octane.(Premium)  This requires a placard on the pumps telling you there is 10% ethanol blend. The ethanol is not put in at the big product  terminals.  You mov e your trucks to a different location where ethanol is stored and load your 10% blend. (In our case 850 gallon of ethanol)

      $30.00 is is charged for this so called "split". The feds give petroleum distributors a break on taxes if they blend the ethanol.  So, the 87 octane gasoline is also blended because it makes it cheaper to purchase the product with an ethanol blend. Here is the kicker.  You do not have to placard your pumps if you are not increasing the octane for an additional cost. The regular non lead gas, 87 oct., has been blended with 10% ethanol, but you do not have to notify the customer at the pumps.  Only if you use it to increase octane to charge more for it.

      Right now, they are charging more for ethanol in MO, so the distributors are not blending ethanol with regular non-lead 87 octane. However this is unusual and will not last for more than two or three days. Soon they will have no choice.  

      Tony was correct.  Very soon it will be mandated ALL gasolines will have some type of  blend, so you might as well get used to using aviation fuel. They are building those big "Stills" (alcohol plants) all over the US. Mid grade gas is half non lead and half 91 premium.  Beware, ethanol will still be added if the product makes the complete load a litle cheaper.

      Now you know why I have spent all those years flying and let my family run the business. <G Larry 



       

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Markl 
        To: aeronca at westmont.edu
        Subject: Re: [f-AA] Auto-gas STC
        Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 14:56:57 -0500


        OK guys

        This question comes up a lot and we need a "handout" that can be emailed to answer this question.    How about someone volunteering to put together the combined knowledge of the group.

        Fly frequently, many times, often, over and over again, and LOOK around,

        Regards,
        Tony Markl
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Dwayne.Lafave at k12.sd.us 
          To: aeronca at westmont.edu 
          Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 11:19 AM
          Subject: [f-AA] Auto-gas STC


          How common is the use of auto gas in a 7AC?
          Any pitfalls one needs to be aware or if using auto gas?
          I know not to use ethanol, but have heard some concerns about lesser
          amounts of alcohol being added to gas without having to be labeled.
          Would there b potential problems with that?


          Dwayne J. LaFave

          605-854-3151 (H)
          605-860-1650 (C)

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