[f-AA] ### Was Cleared to Land now Steven has new information for us!

[Steven P. McNicoll]

Joe,

This information comes from FAA Order 7110.65 Air Traffic Control.  It
prescribes air traffic control procedures and phraseology for use by persons
providing air traffic control services in the US. You don't need to pass
this information along to control towers, controllers are required to be
familiar with the provisions of the order that pertain to their operational
responsibilities.

Here is a link to the applicable paragraph of FAAO 7110.65:
http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraffic/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/ATC/Chp3/atc0310.html#3-10-3

The aircraft categories are described in the preceding section, here is a
link to them:
http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraffic/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/ATC/Chp3/atc0309.html#3-9-6

Steven P. McNicoll
De Pere, WI


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <joeaksa at attglobal.net>
To: <aeronca at westmont.edu>
Cc: <roncachamp at earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [f-AA] ### Was Cleared to Land now Steven has new information
for us!


> Steven,
>
> In 37 years of flying and over 15,000 hours in airplanes this is the first
> time I have
> ever had anyone tell me that its ok to land with another airplane still on
> the runway.
>
> Military applications aside, from what Roger posted earlier as well as my
> experience
> around the world, its illegal for the control tower staff to approve a
> landing of a jet
> airplane on a runway with another airplane still on the same runway.
>
> Can you pls give us clarification on where you get this information so
> that we can
> pass it along to the control towers. I fly planes for a living and did not
> know, nor have
> ever had anyone clear me to land (in the civilian world that is) with a
> second airplane
> on the runway. They must be missing something in the regulations that you
> need to
> point out to them!
>
> Joe A
>
> On 3 Aug 2007 at 6:26, Steven  P. McNicoll wrote:
>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>
>> If you have an aversion to landing while there is still another airplane
>> on
>> the runway, then you should avoid airports with control towers, period.
>
>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <joeaksa at attglobal.net>
To: <aeronca at westmont.edu>
Cc: <roncachamp at earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [f-AA] ### Was Cleared to Land now Steven has new information 
for us!


> Steven,
>
> In 37 years of flying and over 15,000 hours in airplanes this is the first 
> time I have
> ever had anyone tell me that its ok to land with another airplane still on 
> the runway.
>
> Military applications aside, from what Roger posted earlier as well as my 
> experience
> around the world, its illegal for the control tower staff to approve a 
> landing of a jet
> airplane on a runway with another airplane still on the same runway.
>
> Can you pls give us clarification on where you get this information so 
> that we can
> pass it along to the control towers. I fly planes for a living and did not 
> know, nor have
> ever had anyone clear me to land (in the civilian world that is) with a 
> second airplane
> on the runway. They must be missing something in the regulations that you 
> need to
> point out to them!
>
> Joe A
>
> On 3 Aug 2007 at 6:26, Steven  P. McNicoll wrote:
>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>
>> If you have an aversion to landing while there is still another airplane 
>> on
>> the runway, then you should avoid airports with control towers, period.
>
>