[f-AA] ### Was Cleared to Land now Steven has new information for us!

joeaksa at attglobal.net joeaksa at attglobal.net
Sun Aug 5 10:02:09 PDT 2007


Sorry but Joe never said that. Roger is correct. I said that I have never been at an 
airport (other than military ops) where they allowed two airplanes on the runway at 
the same time. 

You acted like I was "round the bend" saying this and that I "should never visit an 
airport with a control tower" if I was not ready to experience this. Considering that I fly 
for a living and pretty much live at airports with control towers and have NEVER seen 
two airplanes, not to mention jet airplanes, on the same runway at the same time, 
this is very interesting. While it may be legal in the books, its not practiced at any of 
the airports that I go to and that's only about 300 different airports around the world in 
a year. As well my Aeronca is based at DVT, the 3rd busiest general aviation airport 
in the US and its not allowed there. Wonder what I am missing? 

How about we take this off list. Its not an Aeronca subject and I have had several 
people email me and say that they have had enough of this subject. The rest of their 
comments I cannot post but was sure glad to get their emails. 

Joe
(who has landed in Chicago, Montreal, Teterboro, Atlanta, Boston, London Luton, 
Freetown Sierra Leone, London Farnborough, Paris, London Farnborough again, 
Cairo Egypt, Livingstone Zambia and Johannesburg in the last two weeks. Next is 
Male in the Maledive islands South of India, Dubai then back to London and then 
Boston, Vancouver and hopefully Phoenix) 

On 5 Aug 2007 at 11:12, Steven  P. McNicoll wrote:

> I don't think so.  Joe wrote, among other similar statements; "Considering 
> that my copilot right now is a retired FAA ATC type, and he feels the same 
> way that I do that two airplanes are NEVER allowed on the same runway during 
> takeoff or landing, especially when it involves jet aircraft, believe that 
> we have the 'ATC procedures' part covered on this end."  Joe is saying an 
> airplane cannot be cleared to land with another airplane still on the runway 
> regardless of the type of airplanes involved.
> 
> Steven P. McNicoll
> De Pere, WI
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "roger anderson" <11ac at comcast.net>
> To: <aeronca at westmont.edu>; <joeaksa at attglobal.net>
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 10:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [f-AA] ### Was Cleared to Land now Steven has new information 
> for us!
> 
> 
> >I think this is just a misunderstanding regarding what types of aircraft 
> >may
> > occupy the runway at the same time.  Only Cat I and II (as defined in the
> > 7110.65, appendix A) can do so.  There is no provision for SRS if one of 
> > the
> > aircraft is a Cat III (basically jets).  Joe flys jets and was questioning
> > the issue reference that type of aircraft...I think.  roger
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp at earthlink.net>
> > To: <joeaksa at attglobal.net>; <aeronca at westmont.edu>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 8:27 AM
> > Subject: Re: [f-AA] ### Was Cleared to Land now Steven has new
> > informationfor us!



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