[f-AA] ### Was Cleared to Land now Steven has new information for us!

Gregg Horrell ryanaero at gci.net
Sun Aug 5 09:08:34 PDT 2007


Hey Joe,
   Do you need an FAA guy to ride jumpseat on one of those world-treks? I'll 
buy the malted beverage.
Gregg
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <joeaksa at attglobal.net>
To: <aeronca at westmont.edu>
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [f-AA] ### Was Cleared to Land now Steven has new information 
for us!


> Sorry but Joe never said that. Roger is correct. I said that I have never 
> been at an
> airport (other than military ops) where they allowed two airplanes on the 
> runway at
> the same time.
>
> You acted like I was "round the bend" saying this and that I "should never 
> visit an
> airport with a control tower" if I was not ready to experience this. 
> Considering that I fly
> for a living and pretty much live at airports with control towers and have 
> NEVER seen
> two airplanes, not to mention jet airplanes, on the same runway at the 
> same time,
> this is very interesting. While it may be legal in the books, its not 
> practiced at any of
> the airports that I go to and that's only about 300 different airports 
> around the world in
> a year. As well my Aeronca is based at DVT, the 3rd busiest general 
> aviation airport
> in the US and its not allowed there. Wonder what I am missing?
>
> How about we take this off list. Its not an Aeronca subject and I have had 
> several
> people email me and say that they have had enough of this subject. The 
> rest of their
> comments I cannot post but was sure glad to get their emails.
>
> Joe
> (who has landed in Chicago, Montreal, Teterboro, Atlanta, Boston, London 
> Luton,
> Freetown Sierra Leone, London Farnborough, Paris, London Farnborough 
> again,
> Cairo Egypt, Livingstone Zambia and Johannesburg in the last two weeks. 
> Next is
> Male in the Maledive islands South of India, Dubai then back to London and 
> then
> Boston, Vancouver and hopefully Phoenix)
>
> On 5 Aug 2007 at 11:12, Steven  P. McNicoll wrote:
>
>> I don't think so.  Joe wrote, among other similar statements; 
>> "Considering
>> that my copilot right now is a retired FAA ATC type, and he feels the 
>> same
>> way that I do that two airplanes are NEVER allowed on the same runway 
>> during
>> takeoff or landing, especially when it involves jet aircraft, believe 
>> that
>> we have the 'ATC procedures' part covered on this end."  Joe is saying an
>> airplane cannot be cleared to land with another airplane still on the 
>> runway
>> regardless of the type of airplanes involved.
>>
>> Steven P. McNicoll
>> De Pere, WI
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "roger anderson" <11ac at comcast.net>
>> To: <aeronca at westmont.edu>; <joeaksa at attglobal.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 10:03 AM
>> Subject: Re: [f-AA] ### Was Cleared to Land now Steven has new 
>> information
>> for us!
>>
>>
>> >I think this is just a misunderstanding regarding what types of aircraft
>> >may
>> > occupy the runway at the same time.  Only Cat I and II (as defined in 
>> > the
>> > 7110.65, appendix A) can do so.  There is no provision for SRS if one 
>> > of
>> > the
>> > aircraft is a Cat III (basically jets).  Joe flys jets and was 
>> > questioning
>> > the issue reference that type of aircraft...I think.  roger
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp at earthlink.net>
>> > To: <joeaksa at attglobal.net>; <aeronca at westmont.edu>
>> > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 8:27 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [f-AA] ### Was Cleared to Land now Steven has new
>> > informationfor us!
>
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